If it's a repro sniper, then it's probably worth between $400-$500 depending on who is paying for one, and how bad they want one. Without more details, it's hard to say if it's real or not. 1944 Izhevsk 91/30 snipers utilized the PU style mount, as is mounted on this rifle. The large scope base screw that holds the mount in place looks like it's got a little patina on the checkering where your fingers would go to screw the screw tight.

It's a Mosin Nagant. You can buy an original for $100 with most if not all serial numbers matching. It's a military rifle and so many were reworked at armories. Butt plates generally didn't. The most famous sniper in history achieved his place place in the history books with a Mosin Nagant. I will buy one, just. Results 1 - 16 of 18. These are made to the Cabela's has acquired a supply of legendary Mosin-Nagant Model 91/30 rifles that were stored in the Ukraine by the former Soviet Union. It will fit any model o $3. Sell your Mosin Nagant Rifles/Carbines f Up for sale today is a Mosin Nagant M9130 PU Sniper serial no.

But, that could be from coming on and off a lot to get it dialed in if someone was shimming/shaving the base to get the scope on zero. With these PU style scopes of the Soviet sniper era, the reticules actually move inside the scope when the windage and elevation knobs are adjusted. It is very odd, but it was effective enough as we well know the famous Russian WWII sniper, Vasily Zaitszev, could make many German veterans of the Eastern front attest to that. The leather scope lens covers also appear to be old, and they don't look like current production covers.

More details to note, for originality if this is indeed an authentic and real sniper, is this year of 91/30 sniper from the Izhevsk arsenal, would/should have the serial number of the scope/base stamped on the left side of the barrel shank just above the stock line. Download Video Cara Sholat Magrib. That is one sure way to know for sure that the rifle was adopted by the Soviets for use, or anyways, designated as, a sniper rifle during the war based on the date on the barrel shank. If there is a number stamped on the left side of the barrel shank above the stock line, and there is an electro penciled number written on the scope/base, then it is likely a repro sniper. Another detail to note is there were some recently imported rifles that were converted to snipers.

Meaning the distributors that got these rifles, drilled, tapped and converted the bolts to use actual Russian reproduction manufactured scopes allegedly made on original machinery that produced PU scopes of old during the war. Are there any import marks on the rifle, and where are they located? Another detail to consider is if it is indeed a repro sniper, is the rifle used is most likely a force matched refurbished rifle. Just about all of the current imported 91/30 rifles, while in perfectly good shooting condition, were re-arsenaled then packed away in cosmolene and stuck in a depot or warehouse for keeping for the western invasion that never came? They are imported in crates of 20 rifles with ammo pouches, oilers, slings and bayonets. Who knows if that's why they kept them all, but it would be best if you could thoroughly examine this rifle to ensure it indeed has 'matching' numbers. The trained eye can spot this at a glance, but sometimes it is hard to decipher whether it was re-stamped or not.

You'll want to pay particularly close attention to the areas where the serial numbers are stamped. Most often the barrel shank does not have any modification made to it, such as sanded/ground off serial numbers (sometimes maybe MO stamped MNs but that's a whole different topic of discussion), mag floor plate (trigger guard housing/mag well), bolt body, and butt plate. If there are any sanding or grinding marks, one should be able to tell.

Look for a uneven surface where a grinder or sander removed metal, or shallow remnants of old serial numbers. The floor plate and butt plate would have been reblued. The old serials were removed and new ones stamped. The most obvious way to tell a force matched MN is electro penciled numbers that are hand written.

If the rifle is something that is authentic, which just by the odds of finding one like that are pretty small, then it will be quite expensive. It would probably bring more than $1000 at auction. From the pictures supplied, the stock is a probably late war/post war with pressed in sling slot escutcheons. It doesn't appear to have the shiny, deep red looking shellac on it either that is common on current import 91/30s. The stock cut out that can be seen for the scope mount, doesn't look like a fresh cut, but without seeing the rifle in hand, or having some nice macro photos, it's still kind of hard to say. It's a lot of information to digest, but maybe it might help some.

I'm not an expert on MN snipers, but I think I know enough to be dangerous anyways. Colonel, you know more than enough of Mosin sniper rifles to be dangerous. I agree with all you said, and thank you for saving my having to repeat it.

The one observation I have that may be of use has to do with the inletting and fit of the action to the stock as shown in the photos. The photographs of actual wartime MN sniper rifles that I have seen look to have been very carefully fitted into their stocks; prewar expensive sporting rifle quality fitting, almost. The Soviets were as aware as the American 'nation of riflemen' were of how important precision of fit between action, barrel and stock is to performance. Given the sheer mass of infantry they had to equip, for at least the first two years of the Great Patriotic War they could not afford to be even as fussy as the Soviet inspectors of the interwar period were, much less as fussy as a US Army inspector at a US arsenal. But when they discovered that rare Mosin where all the factors that go into making a barreled action a tack-driver came together and produced a 91/30 of exceptional accuracy, they DID take the time to make sure its stock fitted the action as precisely as it could, put a scope on it, and blessed it as a sniper.

The rifle of which Frank Dwyer sent us the photos does not appear to have that high level of fitting I expect of a real, as opposed to a replica, Mosin sniper rifle. He might want to bear that, and even more so your details on what to check and where, in mind when negotiating price with the seller, Colonel. Thank you Iron Colonel and Cyrano for all of that information. It is a lot to digest, but it is very much appreciated. I had looked all over the internet and I could not find a PU with the same style serial. It is a two hour drive to go see this rifle and I`ll be sure to check for those things. The seller advised that this rifle came from when he cleaned out the KGB warehouses in Bulgaria in the late 1980s.

Dvla Lost Digital Drivers Card. He works for a firearms dealer, but this is from his private collection. He is asking $875, but is open to an offer.

I saw the same thing about RGUNS and had looked at that picture. I am in Ontario and imagine it would be a certifiable nightmare to try to get a gun across the ditch these days. I could not find another PU scope with a serial stamp exactly like that on the internet. I saw one post that suggested if it said 91/30 on the PU, it was a repro. I thought the scope might be the easiest thing to determine if it was repro but I guess I thought wrong. Four kids is enough 338rum. At least I had one is gun lover.

Thanks again everyone. I`ll keep monitoring this tread. I'm not as well versed on Nagant revolvers, but I would like to find a nice Imperial Nagant revolver to add to the collection. I have one very nice 1937 Tula Nagant with some battle damage on the frame.

Still shoots though. As for the topic at hand, definitely get as many detailed pictures (especially up close of marks, symbols, stamps, cartouches with a macro setting) as you can before you go (if you go) to view the rifle.

If the rifle indeed did change hands to Bulgaria (or was snuck in by the Russians if it was cleared out of a KGB warehouse?), it could be possible it was possibly refurbed but still as a sniper? Who knows the possibilities. Without documentation a story is a story, but some more believable if the proper marks/stamps are in the proper places. If it indeed does turn out to be matching or is the real deal, that price might not be a bad deal. And since you are in Canada, Rguns does kind of seem to be out of the question.

I am not versed in import laws in that regard. But, I don't know if there is as much of a 'demand' for Mosin snipers, or if they are more easily attainable like for example SVT 40s that are considerably cheaper there than here in the states. Be interested to see some pictures if you endeavor in to this deal. Click to expand.His patience wearing thin? If so then don't do the deal with him. He should be willing to provide anything you ask for and if he refuses or gives an attitude about don't do the deal.

Seems like he is trying to offload it quickly. Which to me means he wants quick money and is trying to get the first 'sucker' he can to purchase it. Also sight unseen I wouldn't do it. It's a lot of money real or fake to spend on something sight unseen. I am also not calling you a sucker, just so you know. Having done some research on the internet, I knew there were far too many fakes for me to be able to make an informed purchase. That is why I came here.

I had been surfing the internet from end to end for PU Snipers available in Canada and thought I was talking to someone in Alberta and would have to buy sight unseen. As it turns out he is only 2hrs from my home. The company he is affiliated with is called MARSTAR and they only do internet and mail order business. Since this rifle was in an employees (maybe the owners) personal collection, I had already asked about coming to see it when I asked about some new pictures. The rifle appears to be a 1944 Izhevsk. The last digit of the date is hard to see, but it looks like a 4.

The two 4s have an open top, and although they do appear to be mildly sweeping like the 1, it looks to me like a 1944. Now, one thing I didn't notice until I inspected the picture of the barrel shank a little bit closer, is it almost appears that there are numbers stamped on the left side of the receiver, just above the stock line. The numbers on the scope are 95001, but it is really too hard to make any numbers out on the receiver to really postulate accurately until you have some pictures, or visual confirmation if you are going to see it. Compare the fonts of the numbers on the left side of the receiver with the numbers that correspond on the serial number or the date, and see if any are the same.

Make sure it looks like the numbers were stamped when the rifle was made a sniper, not something that looks like it was recently done or put together. With that little bit of evidence, it is looking pretty good that it might indeed have been made a sniper originally, but it's still hard to see and say those numbers match the numbers on the scope. I just don't know enough about PU scopes though to be able to tell if the scope has been refurbed as well.

Interested in finding out what you find out when you find it out.