Thats a little harsh. For starters the software is only a few years old. Second, the vast majority of piping is in the petrochemical industry, with the food industry relatively minor in comparison, so it makes sense for the initial offerings to include one and not the other. The available content is, quite frankly, amazing compared to most piping design suites.

For comparitive purposes, *nobody* provides CSA spec'd fittings and components we use for a number of clients; rather than get in a huff we've recognized that ASME is king-of-the-hill in North America and accepted that some things we need to do ourselves. Of course, the upside to that is a) we can tell prospective clients we are set up and ready to go and b) if we provide them for use by other companies it spreads the word about our level of quality and commitment. I'd rather spend my time doing what makes money for my company, not what brings profitless glory to me. In my experience, clients are not impressed by how well I build a piping catalog for a software product. What impresses clients and gets us that coveted return business is delivering work done right, on budget, on time. Our clients couldn't care less what software we use. That determination is internal to us and boils down to an ROI calculation that involves much more than the cost of software.

If I be required to code a new component category and fully check it in order to rank highly in some Autodesk employee's opinion, I'd frankly rather spend that time doing billibale work for clients. That is the point I am trying to get across to you guys. Defend your product all you want.

Fundamentally I only buy software that I can use to make money. I am sure what you say is true, but frankly, I don't see the business sense in it! What your are suggesting is I implement an expensive software package that CANNOT do what I need. Then instead of putting the investment to immediate profit, I endeavor to build a complete custom parts catalog. Have you ever examined Tri Clover's component catalog.

It is considerably larger than ANSI in scope. What you suggest iisn't as simple as writing an AutoLisp routene. And by the way, Autodesk changed AutoLisp, so don't tell your component catalogs are 'for life'. I've been around since AutoCAD 9.

The software you use, (AutoCAD, Revit, MEP etc) may change the answers you may receive. I'm sure if you supply. Did you ever find a place with Sanitary Fittings? The CAD portal at Alfa-laval (tri-clover) has alot of product files..

I shall recommend to my managers that we defer further consideration of AutoCAD Plant 3D until it has been matured for our market. It does do it, it just doesn't have the particular library of parts you require. I didn't say anything about Autolisp, the catalogs in P3D are database files, so once they are done, they are done. You can export to excel, you can use the catalog editor to make catalogs ( I am trying to help here. I would think that it may not have a certain number of parts you require, that might be something unique/special for what you require. Most fittings might be there, have you looked at the shipped catalogs, really looked inside them to see whats there? Have you downloaded the other content packs available on Plant Exchange to see what they have?

Can you provide a link to a website that has the catalog's you require? They are just database parts, even though with the shipped (or downloaded) catalogs, it could be just a long description change for the parts to work for you, or a minor dimension change. All Plant projects will need a catalog update/edit/create done for them, you will have to accept that. Hi P3Duser, I have created a catalog using these Sanitary Fittings, as I have worked in the Sanitary Food Process Industry (Dairy) for quite sometime. Now in a Tech Support/Sales role. I developed these catalogs in very minimal time. It is relatively easy.

And I have many customers that have developed their own also. Ifly 737 Fsx Dvd Update 3 1. Unfortunately there is a non-profitable time period to consider but the pay off can be very rewarding in the future projects that you work with. The problem I find mostly with the sanitary fittings etc, is that there is no regulation or standard that needs to be followed by any supplier or manufacturer. There is standards published but no one really follows them because of relaxed practices in that particular industry. When I was in the industry, before starting any of the pipe design, we had to have a commitment from Project Managers to what supplier they were going to use, so we knew whcih catalog/spec to build from. Ibm Thinkcentre M52 8212 Audio Driver.

Dear PD3Duser, Thank you for your feedback. There are a lot of different part catalogs out there and like every other company, we have limited resources.

As I am sure you will understand, we prioritize our resources in generating content packs. One factor in that prioritization is customer requests from people such as yourself. Hence my suggestion that you request the content you need. We respect your opinion that you feel that Plant 3D must have the content you are looking for. Please bear with us as we work on making that possible.

Dear Pat Jenakanandhini, Thank you for understanding my concerns. Golubovic asked for a website, I would point him to Alfa Laval Tri Clover for S-Line sanitary tubing, fitings, valve and pumps. They are the industry standard. He might also visit Waukesha Cherry-Burrell for tubing fittings, valves and pumps with particular attention to their S-line, I-Line and Q-line components. He might further consider GEA Tuchenhagen AB for mix-proof sanitaty valves which are rapidly gaining market share. Based upon past experience with a competitors product, I would suggest that Autodesk Inc.

Approach the above companies with regard to representing their catalogs in a future edition of AutoCAD Plant 3D. I know component suppliers have contributed financially to have their products included in other piping modelers. If history repeats, it might extend Autodesk's limited resources with regard to my concern. Best regards, mlw. I see that notation frequently from our clients, 'All tubing fittings to be. NO substitutions.'

, because parts from different vendors don't always fit. Its also one of the reasons we do very limited modeling in the tube side, the other being it gets field run on the fly better and cheaper than we can produce the drawings. Even with oil and gas fittings there can still be large variations in certain valve dimensions and weights, so there are times I'm glad for brute-force ASME standardization on pipe and basic fittings:).

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